"Initially, we tried following the typical approach of selecting topics associated with women's issues. This included things like balancing career and family, managing in-law relationships, and addressing more intimate topics. However, everyone in the room expressed disinterest in these topics," recounts Zhang.

Subsequently, they decided to open up the conversation, discarding all preconceived notions and frameworks.

Instead, they started to discuss their individual interests.

The discussion quickly became animated, with some expressing enthusiasm for drama, others for literature, some for artificial intelligence, and others for archaeology.

"Eventually, we unanimously decided that regardless of whether the topic was traditionally considered a women's issue or not, we would find intriguing individuals in various fields and discuss fascinating things together," says Zhang.

Ultimately, they settled on a diverse range of topics, including the growth patterns of plants, animal behavior, film and television and technological advancements.

In selecting guests, Ren leans toward what she describes as "naturally charming individuals".

"We don't require that everything a guest says has to be correct. The primary consideration is that their words come from the heart and feel relatable," she explains.